John Patitucci and I have an idea for a future episode that will touch on some of this. And, I have a whole Coltrane piece done ready for production. So yes, gonna look at this subject. Appreciate the encouragement and knowing that there's someone eager to hear this sort of content—and that it is something you cannot let go of! I also look at Coltrane's influence on me in my memoir, but that doesn't drop until Feb of 25. The more I get into this project the more the ideas for content flood in! Thanks for listening.
This was a great episode. You brought up some ideas I had never connected before. And that little version of you singing Monkeys at the Zoo, we need more of that!
Thanks Jon. I'd like to think there'd be time this year to record an acoustic album of peeps fave songs, and Monkeys would certainly be on the list! Appreciate you.
It’s not pop, but I’d love to hear your thoughts about the impact of jazz musicians. For example, why is it that some people (ahem) cannot listen to Coltrane’s “A Love Supreme” without tearing up or even weeping? How is it that certain music vibrates particular souls to the core without words, while other music drives tears of boredom and frankly, disdain for music called “Christian”? I know this may be nearly impossible to answer, but it’s questions like these that I simply cannot let go.
I was a jazz radio deejay 3 years as an undergrad, and came much closer to Christ around then, too. I found the same phenomenon, both then and now. I'm a bit "charismatic", or a mystic, so I wonder if the Holy Spirit is embedded within music itself, hits brain and body from a different angle, whether we hear the other God-language or just vaguely sense it in what moves us. As for distraction or boring music, it probably obscures that same Spirit, often with $, careerism, or some less "faithful" intention getting in the way. With jazz, just about all of them are "poor but pure" by comparison, so there's less social baggage and ambition getting into the "mix"... tho it does still happen. I met South African trumpeter / singer Hugh Masekela once. On a train platform in Lugano, Switzerland, circa 2009, he told me : "If we don't tour, we don't EAT." He got on the train few minutes later, probably bound for Montreux Jazz Fest. Europe has loved jazz more than N. America since at least the Sixties, if not since its beginnings. We innovate, but wrongly discard what was great all along in favor of some Next Big Thing. Often to the chagrin of the minorities or inventors who get shoved to the back burner, or relegated to "history". Long Live Little Richard and John Coltrane!
Well.... I finished the episode and found myself in some unexpected tears & in a moment of worship as things came to a close. “Spirit, come flush the lies out...” Indeed.
I like that you •offered• a new performance of Monkeys At The Zoo. It felt right.
I’d like for more people who are involved & getting involved with “Jesus Music” to listen to this episode... Your credo are wise words.
I was listening to another podcast last night. Three young men in their 20’s. Young husbands. Seeking the Lord. Seeking what Biblical excellence looks like and what that means. I was listening to this podcast because one of these young men is the nephew of one of my best friends and we took him to the Indy 500 with us a few times when he was in elementary school.
The twenty-somethings discussed a number of topics. And their thoughts on today’s worship music & “Christian products”... And the phrase “slapping the name of Jesus on it” was uttered. And I giggled to myself.
“Slap the name of Jesus on it...”
Christians will buy it...
They’ll play it on the radio...
Sing it in their churches...
Wear it in on their T-shirts...
Buy the breath mints
The poorly made knickknacks... Because they are somehow now a more joyful noise because they say “Jesus”... For $37.99 in the Christian bookstore.
But where is the excellence?
Is it necessary?
I had the same discussions with my friends when I was in my twenties... (I’m now 50.)
Beautiful, CP. I've been telling my friends, saints n scumbags alike, for decades. But even I only came across 2/3 of these instances... One surprise for me though: you seemingly missed or intentionally avoided mentioning Nobel laureate Bob Dylan. He still espouses to be a Jesus follower, said so in fairly recent interviews; he "holds to the creeds", etc... and with those 3-4 Eighties records especially, put some heavy theology and celebrations of J-Dog into some banging and/or gentle masterpieces. Many of them still covered in several secular artists' careers. His work since the late 90s is more weeping Jeremiah than healing Jesus, ...but he still seems to come to "church", and as far as I can see, still looking toward the authentic Jesus.
Well, I currently live in Owatonna, Minnesota. About an hour south of The Twin Cities.
I’m from Bowling Green, KY (an hour up the road from Nashville). But used to live in Nashville (worked at BMI) & have family there. So I still find myself in the Nashville area a few times a year.
John Patitucci and I have an idea for a future episode that will touch on some of this. And, I have a whole Coltrane piece done ready for production. So yes, gonna look at this subject. Appreciate the encouragement and knowing that there's someone eager to hear this sort of content—and that it is something you cannot let go of! I also look at Coltrane's influence on me in my memoir, but that doesn't drop until Feb of 25. The more I get into this project the more the ideas for content flood in! Thanks for listening.
This was a great episode. You brought up some ideas I had never connected before. And that little version of you singing Monkeys at the Zoo, we need more of that!
Thanks Jon. I'd like to think there'd be time this year to record an acoustic album of peeps fave songs, and Monkeys would certainly be on the list! Appreciate you.
It’s not pop, but I’d love to hear your thoughts about the impact of jazz musicians. For example, why is it that some people (ahem) cannot listen to Coltrane’s “A Love Supreme” without tearing up or even weeping? How is it that certain music vibrates particular souls to the core without words, while other music drives tears of boredom and frankly, disdain for music called “Christian”? I know this may be nearly impossible to answer, but it’s questions like these that I simply cannot let go.
I was a jazz radio deejay 3 years as an undergrad, and came much closer to Christ around then, too. I found the same phenomenon, both then and now. I'm a bit "charismatic", or a mystic, so I wonder if the Holy Spirit is embedded within music itself, hits brain and body from a different angle, whether we hear the other God-language or just vaguely sense it in what moves us. As for distraction or boring music, it probably obscures that same Spirit, often with $, careerism, or some less "faithful" intention getting in the way. With jazz, just about all of them are "poor but pure" by comparison, so there's less social baggage and ambition getting into the "mix"... tho it does still happen. I met South African trumpeter / singer Hugh Masekela once. On a train platform in Lugano, Switzerland, circa 2009, he told me : "If we don't tour, we don't EAT." He got on the train few minutes later, probably bound for Montreux Jazz Fest. Europe has loved jazz more than N. America since at least the Sixties, if not since its beginnings. We innovate, but wrongly discard what was great all along in favor of some Next Big Thing. Often to the chagrin of the minorities or inventors who get shoved to the back burner, or relegated to "history". Long Live Little Richard and John Coltrane!
Well.... I finished the episode and found myself in some unexpected tears & in a moment of worship as things came to a close. “Spirit, come flush the lies out...” Indeed.
I like that you •offered• a new performance of Monkeys At The Zoo. It felt right.
I’d like for more people who are involved & getting involved with “Jesus Music” to listen to this episode... Your credo are wise words.
I was listening to another podcast last night. Three young men in their 20’s. Young husbands. Seeking the Lord. Seeking what Biblical excellence looks like and what that means. I was listening to this podcast because one of these young men is the nephew of one of my best friends and we took him to the Indy 500 with us a few times when he was in elementary school.
The twenty-somethings discussed a number of topics. And their thoughts on today’s worship music & “Christian products”... And the phrase “slapping the name of Jesus on it” was uttered. And I giggled to myself.
“Slap the name of Jesus on it...”
Christians will buy it...
They’ll play it on the radio...
Sing it in their churches...
Wear it in on their T-shirts...
Buy the breath mints
The poorly made knickknacks... Because they are somehow now a more joyful noise because they say “Jesus”... For $37.99 in the Christian bookstore.
But where is the excellence?
Is it necessary?
I had the same discussions with my friends when I was in my twenties... (I’m now 50.)
p.s. Thanks for the playlist.
Beautiful, CP. I've been telling my friends, saints n scumbags alike, for decades. But even I only came across 2/3 of these instances... One surprise for me though: you seemingly missed or intentionally avoided mentioning Nobel laureate Bob Dylan. He still espouses to be a Jesus follower, said so in fairly recent interviews; he "holds to the creeds", etc... and with those 3-4 Eighties records especially, put some heavy theology and celebrations of J-Dog into some banging and/or gentle masterpieces. Many of them still covered in several secular artists' careers. His work since the late 90s is more weeping Jeremiah than healing Jesus, ...but he still seems to come to "church", and as far as I can see, still looking toward the authentic Jesus.
I so wish I was able to be at the Parnassus event!
Haven’t had the chance to check out the newest episode yet. Hope to listen today... I’m looking forward to it based on your teasers.
Jennifer, what city are you in?
Well, I currently live in Owatonna, Minnesota. About an hour south of The Twin Cities.
I’m from Bowling Green, KY (an hour up the road from Nashville). But used to live in Nashville (worked at BMI) & have family there. So I still find myself in the Nashville area a few times a year.
Will you be doing a book tour???